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Hmmmmm,
Just recieved my Z8 back from repair and said to have software replaced.

ESPOO_U_46.03.1AG_0000024b
espoo_uiq_31_200648_20070619
Moto_build: 2238C1_B

Flex Version
UCSU0MIVFUKR2S618_IG0

Just wondering...having a look at the report sheet and it just says..

Motorola  Z8Live
VODRR (single) Black
S/W Version  46.03. 1AG

Maybe 46.03. 1AG is Vodafone software?

fubar3803  had
46.03.44G....what was his provider?

Neil   had
46.03.63G....what was his provider?

Was st3ph3n
46.03. 1AG ...also on Vodafone?

Just trying to workout if there is newer firmwares out there or if these are just different versions for different providers/countries.
 
A footnote....I have tried to get this to crash/freeze, but so far it has not done so.  It froze for a while in Swiss Manager but I came out and the phone cleared itself and went back to normal...
Also it starts/opens quicker than before...about 1.5 secs from black screen to turn on keypad.  Used to be 3 secs at least every time before. 
Maybe flex version is different????
 :-\

Mine is a TIM (Telecom Italia Mobile) branded phone.

The number you need to look at for firmware versions is the Moto_build number. So your firmware is 2238C1_B.

This number is made up of the base build number, any fixes applied and a network code at the end.

My Z8 has build: 2267C3_I. What does everyone else have?

I've got 2249c2_c_20070709

Well according to the run of numbers I must have very old firmware!!!

Me..2238C1

Dirg..2249C2

Stuart..2267C3

Strange because mine has just come back from Moto, after all my troubles, with a firmware upgrade.  And I must admit since it came back I have had absolutely no problems at all...not one freeze or crash.

I wonder how the numbers stack up against changes / improvements in the firmware?

My new z8 finally arrived.
For the moment i haven't done anything, just charging the battery.
The new one has exactly the same version of software installed. Run it in english and not going to install anything until i test it a while.

My motobuild still is 2249C2_F

my provider is o2 (uk) and version 2249c2_c

Mine Has

2249C2_C

I also have 2249C2_C, and it's an o2 branded phone.

firmware version 46.03.44G_000002d2 build 2249C2_c  dated 20070709 I guess.

I want that firmware update Stuart has! Is the only way to get it sending it to Moto for updates, or is the update finally available for download somewhere? Or is Stuart well-connected?? ;)

Patrux

The firmware version I listed is available on phones purchased from Expansys (and probably other SIM free retailers). It has not been released as a user upgrade or even as a manufacturer upgrade.

There IS another, even newer firmware being developed; however I do not know any official dates as to when this might be made available.

Mine is 2238C1_...

I can't see the rest. I got mine from Voda as soon as it came out.

I just got mine back from repair yesterday and I suppose that they upgraded the software, however I do not remember the previous version...

Now I have 2283C4_A

2312C4_N

Hi

I have the nr.2283C3 l... is this the newest?
Motorola Software update say's that i have the newest one.

sorry for my english  ;)

greetings from switzerland
odin

2312 is the latest build which has been seen in public, but we don't know yet which version Motorola are making available.

Excuse me Stuart, but you posted the news. Who gave you the hint, can't he look at the version he got installed?

It was one of our testers who noticed the change on Motos website, but seeing as that person is already running 2312, he's unable to find a "newer" version, as am I.

OK, now it's more clear.

I had build 2267c3.

But i can't say that i am pleased with it. Phone often reeboot, bluetooth is crappy an i had another bunch of little annoying things. Brought it back to the shop, and hopefully it wil return with better software. 

If the sw stays crappy than i will ask for a refund. Would be a shame because the looks are super, only they should have tested the software better. I don't like to be a beta tester. I will be in touch if my z8 is returned. Hopefully with good sw news for all of us.

Don't worry, way newer firmwares are out there and are easy and painless to flash on the phone, if you're so inclined to try that ;)

Patrix

Yep, as Patrixl said, there are WAY newer firmeares than yours available.

...go ahead and post how to "acquire" these firmwares.

Well if you give me the go-ahead, why not. Wasn't sure what your policy was on this forum about this, seeing as you have contacts inside Moto and all ;)

Download

ESPOO_U_46.04.64G_2312c5_xu_RDRO_Germany_15Nov07_1.0_1.1_2312c5_z_23112007811

from

http://motorolarazr.forumcommunity.net/?t=13255356

Get RSD Lite 3.9.1 or so (won't post link, nobody does but it's easy to find). Apparently version 4.1 has a virus or trojan, so not a good idea. Also get the latest USB drivers if you need to.

Put your phone in modem mode, connect it, wait for all the windows weird sounds and hardware to be recognized properly, start up RSD Lite, same thing, your phone should appear in the list of phones in RSD Lite.

Select the sbf file above, and click start and wait. Should take about 10 minutes or so. ESPOO flash loader will actually show you the progress on the phone's screen so you don't have to worry about whether it's actually doing something or not.  (Nice contrast to my V3x, which I now sold)

Have done it twice so far, and the only issue I encountered was when I moved my phone and the (weak) USB connector disconnected lol. Thankfully that was just when RSD was sending the flash file, it wasn't actually flashing anything.

Only real problem I've encountered so far is a horrible battery life. Not sure if it was SWP cleaning up idle apps every hour or whatnot. Turned that off to see if it would get better. Heck I've been able to put the phone in my jeans pocket and listen to music with the S9 with barely a skip, while walking. Pretty happy so far!

Patrix

Normally I wouldn't like this method publicised, but considering Motorola's continuing lack of firmware updates for the Z8, the imminent release of the Z10, and the probable closure of the Z8 development site... why not...

I've been using 2312 for a while now (through a different source) and I can't say I've experienced the battery issue. Infact, to my mind the battery life is somewhat better with this firmware.

Yeh I'm not quite sure what causes this issue. I charge my phone fully in the morning, go out, listen to a bit of music, text a bit, a bit of web browsing. Come back home in the evening, still showing 3 bars. Ok. Go to bed, sitll showing 3 bars. Suddenly in the morning I hear it beep, and the battery indicator is red.

Maybe it IS SWP's auto cleanup, maybe something else, maybe even the battery going out. Have to investigate it further before blaming the firmware, of course. The only reason it  coincides with the firmware probably is that I hadn't used the Z8 for about 1-2 months, and now that I updated I'm using it again.

effect != cause ;)

Patrix

Yeh battery life is fine now. Probably it was SWP cleaning up the idle apps every hour that was causing this...

Patrix.

Hello,

Maybe a noob question,how did you disable that ?

Thanks.

SMP is a third party program you have to download and install on your phone.

If you don't recognise what SMP stands for, then the chances are you haven't installed it.

Thanks.

Is there a firmware for Benelux somewhere ?

Hi

hmm i can't extract the 2312Firmware from http://motorolarazr.forumcommunity.net/?t=13255356 (http://ttp://motorolarazr.forumcommunity.net/?t=13255356). Only the 2283 & the Ferrari Firmware works.
Someone has an other link for the 2312 firmware?

thanks

I've downloaded the file, and it extracts correctly.
Try downloading the file again, or try another program (i'm using 7zip 4.57)

I'm using 2312C5_Z

Heh, this is my first Z8, and my first ever Symbian based Phone. Been an avid moto fan for years though :)

Hi Neil

Yes with 7zip extracts correctly.

next problem, my firmware update was incomplete. It works to 75% then an error message came. update incomplete. my z8 is death  :o shit happens

Now I bring my Z8 into a repaircenter. I hope he can repair my Z8  ::)

Hmm, very bad, but the can surely repair you phone.
I flashed the ferrari and worked fine.
Flashing is never safe, but i0ve flashed a lot of phones and never had a problem.

Yes the Ferrari Firmware was no problem, but i dont like the Ferrari style. So i tried update the "normal" 2312 firmware. A big mistake ;-)

Hmmm I know that with my v3x, if the flashing didn't complete properly I could always flash it again and it'd work out. Is it not so with the Z8?

Patrix

In the last month my phone "broke down' 3 times. Everytime when i get it back they say the renewed 'a' part. sw version is still not updated on my phone. It's now in the shop aigain, where they are trying to convince motorola to give me a new one, or a refund. I know there is a new sw version to download and install with rsd lite. But i just don't want to do that. With my luck windows will chash, and then i'm in a world of shit.

Motorola support dissapoints me a bit.....

My first Z8 was defective and since it was very new, and a branded version, the motorola center changed the whole package (with me gaining a 512mb microSD  ;D ). The new one was just fine, but without a software update i was having major headaches in 3G mode. So you shoud insist for a new phone, and if does not come with an updated software flash the ferrari firmware, and you will be satisfied.

For who is manually updating the firmware: this phone "seems" to have a "learning curve" about the battery, so if after the flashing the battery lasts less it may be that it has to learn again. And if you had a firmware where Shozu wasn't already present know that it is always running now, so if you don't need it you must "kill" it with SMP. (my first TIM branded firmware didn't had Shozu).

I really hope they give me a new package! The looks and the os of the phone are just great. Only the crappy firmware makes my life a hell on earth. The ferrari firmware sounds nice with the SF logo's and themes. But i just have to wait until i hear something from the shop/repair centre. Hope that i have a new one before my holliday on thursday, but i'm affraid that is wishfull thinking.

Still i'm verry dissaipointed that motorola does not put the new firmware online. That would save us lots of sleepless nights, and it would save motorola lots of money in repair costs i belive.

Well i will let you all know what motorola's decission will be!

news from the repair center  ;D

The complete hardware for my Z8 must be replaced  :o
But the good news, they repair the Z8 under Warranty.

I never flash the firmware for a z8 again.

greetings
odin

I found a build 2361 and decided to flash my phone. I was in the mood since a friend with a Z8 came to me to update his firmware so I was "warm".

It has only english and russian language. It is what once was called an "engineering" version. It has no additional software and ha a Debug folder with these programs:
-EFEM
-eshell
-MotorolaKeyTest
-QfileMan
-QikCore Test
-System Profiler
-UiConfigTest

I'm not going to run any of these. It starts with more than 70Mb of free space (less languages and no bundle).
It connects to the Motorola software correcly. I've done a phone call and the quality was perfect.
and listen to this : when typing an SMS the "no-Caps" bug is gone!I can finally type without having to make the first word after the . a cap.
The phone seems very fast. Tried only SMP and linkboy and they work.
More info on the firmware:

Motorola S/W Version:
ESPOO_U_46.04.B6P
espoo_uiq_31_200648_2361_20071218
Moto build: 2361

Flex Version:
UCSUOMIEMEAR2S618_01E

DSP Version:
531B0000

B.P. Version:
MODEM4 U 40.18.11P

MPR:
7

NPR:
3

http://www.4shared.com/get/47820779/b5565bea/Z8_espoo_build_2361_rus.html

I'm going to configure internet and try Opera Mini so see how it runs.

I've been playing a bit with the phone, not the games because there is no game in this firmware.
It seems that all is working, and working great. Internet runs fast, bluetooth is ok, media player seems a little more fast (not the picture part).
I have not sync'ed the contacs because with the previous firmware (ferrari) I was having a lot of "Program Closed" when pressing the call button fron the contacts. i'm going to write one by one the contacts I need.

yehaaaa

My Z8 is back, and with the new 2388C8 it works great and so fast  ;D

Greetings
odin

2388!?!?!?!?!?!?  What's teh build date, btw? Maybe finally a firmware from 2008 ;)

Now, if only there was a way to extract a firmware from a phone... ;)

Patrix

Hi Patrix

Version:
ESPOO_U_46.05.53G_00
0009d1
espoo_uiq_31_200648_2
388C8_B_20080319
Moto build: 2388C8 B...

I have the file from  here (http://www.faq4mobiles.de/forum/downloads.php?do=cat&id=447).


odin

Odin, what is the password of the files from that site??
Thanks

found it, simply the name of the site... :-)

whoops, i forgot ;-)

The password is  faq4mobiles.de


odin

thanks for this odin

Just flashed the 2388 firmware. It's a complete "default" firmware, but finally a recent version. The 2361 was great, i'll test this for some time and let you know.

I also installed 2388, it works great, no issues yet. Everything is present, all the default themes, the game, ringtones etc.

So far so good. I'll have to compare it with my list of bugs I compiled for 2283 and see how many of them have been fixed :)

Patrix.

thats great, thanks patrix

i have no problems with the 2388, no hangs, and i think it is a little bit faster than the ferrari firmware  ;)

odin

No major issue for the moment, working fine even if I got a "program closed" calling from the Contacts, and this issue is very annoing 'cause the contacts needs to be opened again. This is not a 2388 directly related bug, other firmwares do this as well.
The ferrari did the same while i don't remeber 2361 doing this.
It seems to me that 2361 was a little bit faster. It's just feeling, but the phone runs fine, better then the older firmwares.

Since it is a complete firmware (all languages and content) it issuggested for the people who has a very old firmware, expecially pre 2312.

Running 2388 also, no issues whatsoever. No application closed for Contacts yet ever, on any firmware ;)

Good find, happy the firmware from tHIS YEAR is out there lol.

Patrix

I'm starting to think that it may happen only when using non english software. When I had the 2312beta it never happened. With the ferrari firmware was constant. With the 2361 in 5 days nothing. With this again. i'll set the phone in english to see what happens. Maybe it happens only in italian? The guy I updated the phone to the ferrari firmware had the same problem and still has it on the ferrari.


Ehehe, I feel better now. The phone seems less old now.

more than a week with 2388, still as happy! Makes me glad I stuck with the Z8 instead of moving back to V3x or buying another one..

Patrix

Hmm, now have the 2388 up and running, looks nice, but nu dutch language. So no i-tap dictionairies in dutch. Text message's are a punishment now. So i tryed to install the ferrari firmware, but it won't install. Downloaded it several times, from different site's, decompressed it wit 7-zip and winrar. Nothing so far. tryed rds lite 3.9 4.1 4.2 4.3 but everytime the message flash faild comes up in rsd lite. Can someone please help me whit this?

Now i'm back on 2283  >:(

Well I've finally got round to updating mine to 2388 after months of running development versions... I've got to say it's even better than the previous version I was using, and that in itself was pretty damned good.

2283C4 is what I have, Stuart do you have any info on that build?

I purchased the phone off Ebay, has been running very well, for my purposes. Only hitch or bug was lack of RAM. Fixed that with Swiss Manager, free version.. no more bug..

I''ve been looking for an application that will allow for a larger graphic, on incoming/outgoing calls on the contact list, there''s one for the Nok**, but don''t believe it''d work on the Z8. Any ideas, or suggestions.. or just live with it, for now.

Thanks,

could anyone tell me the latest firmware version for the Z8 wich has dutch language support (including itap)?

thanx :)

you might want to check the foxcopy Monster Pack in the Z8 section on modmymoto.com, I think he put Dutch in it, plus it''s the latest known firmware too.

Patrix.

He didn''t.

However, i edited 2388 firmware myself to include dutch itap (NOT dutch menu language)

link here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/153359223/2388_dutch_itap.sbf.html

I have to go back on what i said, weeks later I went back to 2312. Issues with 2388 and 2393 related to the sound system forced me to go back.

In essence, when I make a phonecall I can''t record sound or videos afterwards (makes corrupted files), or listen to music. I was forced to reboot to get things back on track. Though I only flashed a few hours ago, 2312 doesn''t seem to have these issues...

Patrix.

I''m still using 2388 - apart from very random crashes (usually when receiving a call, odly) it''s pretty stable. 2393 was the last Z8 firmware released (if released is the right word) by Moto, as they''ve now pretty much completely given up on the Z8. (and not much seems to be going on with the Z10 either)

Does this mean you don''t experience the same bug I do? Make a phonecall, end it, then try recording a video or voice note. Doesn''t work for me under 2388 or 2393...

Isn''t a surprise to me Moto gave up, it''s still sad though....

Patrix.

It seems this bug is actually caused when I have my Rogers SIM card in my phone, which is why I didn''t notice it until I moved to Canada. Weird!!!

Patrix.